Weekly Wringer 12: Batman or Spiderman... Fight?
Ok, so it's pretty cheap to set up a superhero battle for the Weekly Wringer. Cheap maybe, but not below the Commodore who'll do anything to get the community talking! Who will emerge as the favorite, Batman or Spiderman? If the comments are any indication, this is going to be one hotly contested decision. After providing his own thoughts on the matter, the Commodore brings forth a question about the future of tablet computing. Or... just the iPad2, you decide this week on the Weekly Wringer!







I know my roommate is going to have a mini-seizure when I say this, but I really don't see any appeal in the iPad or the iPad 2. it's not so much that I think tablet computers are useless or anything, I haven't had enough experience with them to make that decision. I just don't think it's practical for most needs, at least for me, for at least three reasons.
First, I find that ipads are not easy to type with, at least not for documents or anything loner than a paragraph. I type everything, and when I say everything, I mean EVERYTHING. This isn't really a personal choice, I am an English/ writing major in college and I have horrible handwriting and (somewhat) poor fine motor control due to dysgraphia, so I need to have a computer that I can easily type for long periods of time with easily and comfortably. that doesn't go with most tablets I've tried out.
Secondly, I pretty much already have portable devices already that suit the things I would use a tablet for. (Gaming, movies, reading, and word processing.) between my laptop, DS, and Kindle i just got for my birthday, I'm already set.
Lastly, I just don't like touch-only interfaces. I have an iPod touch, and it frustrates me when I don't flick, or scroll perfectly and then I suddenly am listening to Metric instead of The Dresden Dolls. I think using a tablet for so many things would personally be a headache. I'm clumsy and buttons are my friends.
I'd rather keep my money thank you. If I wanted an over sized, over-priced coster, I could go to a city dump and start hunting for old AOL trial disc's... oh wait, those where free.
Tablet computers have been around for awhile, but slap a white Apple on it, and suddenly it's like a whole new market has sprang forth from the ether!
Steve Jobs is/has cancer, there I said it.
The only reason that people will buy it and i would be happy if i got one is the Apple logo THATS ALL. only reason to get an ipod or other i products.
Well, I don't really need one, and it doesn't really spring out to me. That's why I have my iPhone and my Laptop, I'm happy :)
I wouldn't say no to an iPad 2 if it were a gift, but not something I would buy for myself. I know why apple has seemingly boycoted flash, so I understand why they are still essentially locking it out of iPads. However, if I want to play a flash game, I'm going to play a flash game.
I know there are some 3rd party things out there which can work around this. But really that's not the point. For portable computing I'm a netbook person, and I love my little Asus.
Last week's Wringer, 44 comments and it is safe to say that half of them were between redscores and Aestolia.
Any Apple product or any tablet computer are probably not capable of run MS-DOS? I prefer a desktop computer, keyboard, mouse and a CRT monitor.
I have a question about tablet computers, how well do security software (spyware/anti-virus) run on them, and say you need to reinstall to OS how does that work?
This link might be useful http://moconews.net/article/419-apples-jobs-says-ipad-2-makes-it-officia...
I'm new to this website and I watched a few videos (Roo's BS Zelda rundown got me here, and the stoning of the prequel Star Wars movies 10.5 hooked me) and decided that I'd really like to be involved in this community, and this series of weekly videos seemed like a logical place to start.
Firstly, I'd like to post a link that sort of helped me get up to speed on what all of the changes were, and whether or not it would really change my overall viewpoint about the device, and the type of device in general. Here it is:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/ipad-vs-ipad-2-whats-changed/11725
As a background for myself, to help you understand where I'm coming from slightly: I work as a network administrator, and have grown up with computers and technology as a whole. You could say that technology, its affect on the world and humanity, is my passion. I own a PC, a laptop, a Droid Incredible, and an Ipod Touch (to give an idea on what sort of devices I use daily). I dual boot Ubuntu and Windows 7 on my PC and my laptop.
Anyways, enough about me, onto the question. While I do think that the Ipad is a slick device, that's all it really is to me. That's not to say that I dismissed the Ipad. I was very curious about it when it first came out. I eventually got to play around with a couple that my friends owned, and it is a joy to use. However, the main questions for me were, "will it provide me with any functions that would benefit my career/education", and if not, "will it provide me with anything that my Ipod Touch and laptop cannot". The answer to both of those questions is honestly, a flat out "no". I honestly could not find one feature that really struck me as useful to things I find necessary, i.e. work and educaton. Failing that, I looked for features that would justify me buying it as a toy, and again, I came up blank. I also somewhat thought about selling my Ipod Touch and getting an Ipad instead, but I really use the Ipod Touch as my portable media device, including listening to while I'm working out/driving, which it just seems too clunky to provide for.
Onto the second part of the question, as in, "do any of the new features make you want to buy one?" I say no. Honestly, all of these features are either cosmetic, or I already have something that's the same or better. A 720p camera? My Droid has one. Magnetic case flap? Cool, but completely unnecessary. Slightly sleeker, and a bit of a performance increase? I have a 4th gen Ipod Touch, and it certainly does not suffer from any slowdown. In fact, it's graphical abilities far exceed what I had in mind when I bought it. Everything else? Nah, my laptop can handle all of that. Oh and my laptop gives me choices, insteading of making them for me (i.e. flash). I don't mean to sound harsh, but it really just doesn't seem like something I want to spend 500-700$ on. Now, lower the price and we may be able to talk, but it'd have to be much lower, as in, a couple hundred dollars lower (not going to happen).
Now, that's not to say that I think that it doesn't have a place in our society. It certainly does. My family and I were talking about possibly getting one for my grandmother, as she is hardly tech-savvy, but could really use the features that something like this provides. For this, an Ipad honestly is a better choice for her than a laptop, because she just doesn't have the will to learn what she needs to to effectively operate a laptop in a manner that would benefit her. Overall, I think we abandoned the plan because she is coming closer to leaving us with each passing day, but I thought it was a great idea at the time. I can think of multiple other situations where it would have a place.
Sorry to ramble, but I really wanted to contribute something worthwhile (and make a good first impression on who I am, and what I will be trying to contributing each week). Let me know if I broke any taboos. By the way, you all can call me Weg if you'd like, as the full user name is sometimes confusing for people I've just met.
So I watched the entire iPad 2 March presentation, which is something I've never done before for an Apple product, and I've gotta say... not impressed. I'll just mention a few notes I took while watching it, then get into this whole "post-PC" thing.
The iPad is "magical?" They used this term many times, so it wasn't just something in passing. Okay, marketing sure, whatever. A "miracle." Uhh.... No, I wouldn't say that.
They mentioned 2011 potentially being a "year of the copycats." Hmm... I think they're being kinda foolish about this. If they're talking about the marketing strategy and "5 of all trades" mentality of Apple, or possibly the interface style, maybe it is true that others might be trying to copy them. But accelerometers, gyroscopes, front and rear-facing cameras, MIDI authoring software, video editors, and of course tablet PCs in general have all been done for years now.
Their accessories are overpriced. That cover *is* pretty cool (this product was so thoughtful and I was impressed), but it's DEFINITELY overpriced at $40 or $70. The HDMI adapter is $40. Please, it's an ADAPTER. Anytime I see these 4,000% profit models on items, I gag.
Now I don't have an iPad clearly, but is there any reason why locking the screen rotation couldn't be done as a free software update on existing models? Or has it already? The video didn't make it very clear.
"Over 50 sound effects that come with iMovie" LOL. 50? There are (lots of) NES games with more than 50 sound effects. I hate the AAC format, but it seems that's the only format you can use for many of these applications. While "garage band" is a neat toy, its useful features are not something that hasn't already been done years (decade+) ago. And frankly, the "virtual instrument" model is wholy inadequate. For the piano, you've got to use one hand to use the sustain pedal (unless you want to use it constantly), and use one hand to change the keys available. I'm no musician, but don't pianists usually need both hands on keys at the same time? And don't they often play keys simultaneously at different ranges...? The further into the presentation on "garage band" and "iMovie" they got, the more generic and worthless the features became.
The review movie was very redundant with the presentation, but of course that's the norm. But then the review movie became (multiply) redundant with itself! Ugh, frustrating. Their "Technology/Liberal Arts" approach... is very appropriate with their business model: don't do anything well enough to impress anybody who knows anything about a particular subject.
Now I start with the bigger complaints: Thinner? Lighter, sure, I can see that. But since when is "thinner" a feature? Unless something is uncomfortable or impractical, I don't see "thinner" as a feature. And they reiterated it many times. The fact that the iPad is thinner doesn't make it ANY easier to carry with you or use, so what's the big deal? The big deal is that it impresses people who don't to think about it; they expect the product to become thinner so if they didn't get it, they'd be disappointed. Apple has trained their followers to like that kind of stuff without questioning it. Me, I'd go with the original volume (or larger), much more durable, cheaper, and with a longer battery life and probably better performance. But hey, what does any of that "practical" stuff matter?
As far as gaming goes, I'm sure the iPad 2 will be QUITE a portable gaming system graphically, but with a very limiting control scheme. This when the most important thing about games is your interface with them. I think the iPad is great for several kinds of games: turn-based strategy, 4X games, turn-based RPG, maybe a slightly slower-paced RTS, dungeon crawler/Rogue-like, god/sim/SimCity/ThemePark/Tycoon-type games, puzzle-adventure games (Monkey Island, etc.), or even shitty flash games. But really... the demographics just aren't there for anything except for shitty flash games. They attracted an audience that really isn't looking for depth, so that's what they got. So that's the people that games are being made for, and that's why none of the games on iPad interest me. Angry Birds? Really? I've played dozens of better FREE games, and that's not even my type of thing.
Apple is also the fore-runner on wasting system resources, and Microsoft has sadly followed in the past decade or more. I don't care about animated, transparent, analogue-scaling, anti-aliased, bump/specular/etc.-mapped DEKSTOP ICONS. Christ, all that power and you're wasting it on THAT kind of stuff?!
Now as for this "post-PC' bullcrap. Apple is all about mass-market; Apple is for people who either don't really like computers or can't be bothered with it. And I totally get it: learning about technology isn't for everyone. Just like sports aren't for everyone, or TV isn't for everyone, or video games aren't for everyone. But to make a claim that "the PC era is dead" is basically challenging the PC on its own terms. PC has never been about who has the largest install base. PC is just what it stands for: "personal computer." Apple products are all about limitations and control; you are really discouraged from making the computer your own, or doing anything that is not average. To me, what APPEALS to me about a PC is that it is essentially clay in my hands to shape however I want, and as such I can shape it into more or less an extension of myself (not in a literal sense, but in the same sense that someone might say a sword is an extension, etc etc.). And really, the iPad 2 is just more of this "here's what we give you, be happy with it" approach. It doesn't matter if Apple outsells PCs, the PC era will never die because there will always be people who want what a PC has to offer: freedom.
I think the iPad 2 is a fantastic product for people who don't really care too much about the things I mentioned above, but it's not the tablet for me.
And yes, I realize that Nintendo mirrors Apple (and visa-versa) in a lot of ways, but for my consoles I'm really just looking for the ability to play games, with maybe a few convenient extras. And nobody can argue against Nintendo having first-rate games.
The one thing that would've tempted me to buy an iPad 2 over an iPad 1 is a usb port. The lack thereof on the iPad 2 is tempting me to buy a used iPad 1 to mess around with. From what I can tell, the iPad 2 isn't all that much of an upgrade from the first iPad, especially when you consider the FACT that the iPad is pretty much a gimmicky toy. A fun toy, but a toy nonetheless...
First, there is nothing the iPad2 has that would make me want one over the first iPad! That being said, I could see tablets possibly being a replacement for a laptop someday a few YEARS from now. They would need to have more storage space and maybe some USB ports in them. I don't think they will ever really replace the multi-use powerhouse that is the "big box" desktop PC. I could see throwing a tablet PC in my bookbag for college, but I would transfer all the data to a desktop to do the real work. I prefer having a desktop as my all-in-one machine. I can play games, check my favorite sites, and, because it is hooked up to a 55" LCD TV, I can enjoy hulu, Netflix, DVDs and YouTube.
I have heard of some restaurants using iPads as interactive menus. Personally I think that is rather extreme or at least extremely expensive. I would rather spend my money on an Android tablet or a cheap Chinese knock-off if I ever decided to do anything like that.
What about the software updates? When I "updated" my iPhone 3G to the iOS v4, it slowed down to a crawl. Now I can't wait for my contract to expire so I can get a non apple smart phone. Will new software upgrades for the iPad slow it down so people will have to spend more to get the iPad2?
Just say apple and a flame war will happen XD
I read all of your comments and I completely understand where everyone is coming from except for dark light paladin. Sorry dude but you can't just go around assuming that everyone will buy apple products for the brand. I for example had to buy my first apple product ( a macbook) strictly for work as I needed to work with a piece of software that was exclusive to apple. I was hesitant at first. Apple sure does deserve a lot of the criticism it gets so I didn't really know if having a macbook was going to be enjoyable aside from my work but I actually like it a lot.
Knightcrawler said that apple is for people who don't really know about computers or doesn't want to be bothered with it and I couldn't agree more, in fact, I'm just like that. So please don't go around saying that I bought a macbook just for the brand because not everyone buys the same product for the same reason.
Ok now about the Ipad..
I own an ipad myself and didn't have to pay for it as I actually got it for free at work.
I use it a LOT and it's really fun and it comes in handy very often. I overall think that it's a very cool thing. Would I pay 500 $ for it? Hell no. As much as I enjoy the ipad, it's just too pricey to justify it's purchase for me considering how much of what it does can be done if you have a home computer, laptop or even an iphone or android.
As for the ipad 2, I'm not feeling it. Of course if you don't have an ipad to begin with and you're interested in getting one I would go for the ipad 2 as it has a couple of extras but upgrading is a whole other thing. If they show such little improvement in each generation I'll be probably considering an upgrade for the ipad 4.
With that said I really think that there is a difference between opinion and criticism and just bashing.
Of course I think that 12 year good little jessie, buying a macbook pro to use facebook is not a smart decision but as a person that needs apple products for work and why not, actually enjoys apple products I think that putting everyone in that same group and telling people where or how to spend their money comes out as not being able to handle the opinion and taste of others, not a very nice quality in a human being.
For all the apple criticism I see in the comments, agree in everything 100% guys. Overpriced and far from perfect.
Great comments people!
I wanna start out by saying that I have used both Mac computers and Microsoft based PCs. I have tried the iPod and I currently own a PSP that I use as an MP3 Player instead (more multifunctional). I am not really a windows fan because lets face it windows does have a lot of problems (Sorry windows 7 fanboys). Don't get me wrong I would not be caught dead switching to a Mac computer and I will continue to use windows till something more versatile comes out.
I love new technology. I try to own the latest gadgets but I am not a money waster. Tablet PCs are a fantastic stride in terms of inovative micro technology and I can remeber when laptops were 4 inches thick when you closed them and everyone thought that the 10"-13" screen was huge. I can remember seeing a clip from a microsoft press conference where BILL GATES was saying (This was around 1995 and is not a direct quote, its just the best I can remember it).
"Ladies and gentlemen, microsoft is proud to anounce the FUTURE of computers. Windows 95 (insert creepy groupies here "WE LOVE YOU BILL", "MARRY ME BILL".) With the Intel Pentium 1 Processor and 16 Mega Bites of Memory and a 1 Giga Bit HDD. This will bring all the computer power to your home that you will EVER need."
Now obviously that is not exactly how it played out im sure (I hope you chuckled a little) but its a perfect example of how dramatically things have changed. Computers no longer take up whole rooms (Unless you want them to) and we have more access to anything we ever wanted at our finger tips than ever before.
That said I do not own a SMART phone (I have a regular cell phone y'know a phone that you might I dunno call somebody with) I do not want a tablet PC because I have no need for that much access on the go. I love my windows PCs and I love the amazing and beautifully sleek and sexy Mac products that are out there but I will never buy a mac product and this brings my long story to a close.
If I ever get a tablet it will run android, I like it better. There are equally good apps and products for lower costs and not as much ALIENATION OF THE CUSTOMER. In my 25 years of life I have never seen a technology company alienate their customers so much and still make so much money doing it. People flock to the mac store in troves and its like a cult (no offense to any cults out there who may find the previous statment insulting, I do value my well being). I will finish with an example,
EX) This is completely hypothetical and hopefully you will see where I am going with it.
December year XXXX Mac book Pro 1000-1 Series comes out (I don't know or care if thats a real series number). Cost $1500 USD. Specs Dual core processor 2-4GB RAM 15.6" screen and 320GB HDD
July half a year later Mac book Pro 1000-2 Series comes out. Cost $1500 USD Specs Dual Core processor 2-4GB RAM 15.6" screen and a 320GB HDD. Oh yeah and this one is half a pound lighter and instead of square corners it has rounded corners and tapered edges.
Mac book pro 1000-1 is now $750 and its only been 6 months since I payed $1500 and it went down because of the 1000-2 model and WTF there is little or nothing different about the computer itself except something aesthetic??? SERIOUSLY!!! This is why I won't buy a Mac product. I hate getting a virus on my PC and to be honest I hate all the strange techno anomalies that windows has but I can get those specs in a windows 7 PC for less than $500 dollars and I can do more with it. In terms of a tablet the same applies I can do the same thing on an android tablet but I do not have to pay for it.
Thanks for taking the time to read my epic rant.
Interesting posts made, for sure. Wasn't sure if there was going to be a lot of ignorant Mac hate, some logical Mac hate, or very little Mac hate at all. Lets face it, Mac definitely has its issues, but does Steve Jobs live in a Volcano Lair? Don't answer that question.
I was actually very surprised at how much praise some of you gave tablet PCs. I don't really think tablet PCs are a bad thing by any means (as expressed in my post), but I sort of think of them as a side step rather than a huge step forward. They're more of a laptop for people who don't want/need the flexability of a true laptop, and are looking for more of something to use recreationally rather than for work (yes, I'm aware that some people do use them for work, they are an anomoly).
Knightcrawler, I love your avatar. I'm a huge Dragon Quest fan, although I'm sure that most people around these parts are. That's one of the reasons I really wish that I were here a week earlier, so that I could have taken part in the portable gaming discussion (another lifetime, I suppose). Anyways, I feel that while a lot of the games on the App store are certainly glorified flash games, I'd say that there are definitely some with some depth, and certainly some with fantastic graphics that blow away even the best PSP games (Infinity Blade easy has the best graphics out of any portable game ever made). Another genre that has seen a revival of sorts on the App store has been the roguelike, which is one of my favorite genres. I've put more time into ADOM, Crawl, and Nethack than I have most 60$ priced games (Demon's Souls is really the only one this generation that could come close in terms of sheer amount played, but even then it falls short of those three). Sword of Fargoal, and the more recently released (and excellent) 100 Rogues are two roguelikes that have been released on the App store to great success. Sure, they're slightly arcade-like, and have options to lesson the difficulty, but those are just options, and you can turn them off and on like you should be able to. Honestly, when I downloaded Sword of Fargoal, I really thought it would be a dumbed down version because of the platform, and that I would beat it in one run. Well, I got quite far, but I didn't quite beat it, and I was on the "normal" difficulty setting. As for 100 Rogues, I think that I got quite far as well, but not quite as far as in Fargoal. The point being, of course, that they do have a decent selection of games that cater to the more "hardcore" crowd (for lack of a better term, I really do hate the use of that word). Infinity Blade is a decent example as well, great graphics, decent depth, and free content updates. It's a very fun and decently replayable game.
I do think that the hate put towards Apple and the way that they release a new "upgraded" version of their products almost each year is mostly warranted. Honestly, most of those changes should have been put into effect in the first model. It's like the Ipod Touch 1st Gen not having a speaker of its own; it just should have been there. However, it's certainly not the first time that a company has done this, or even worse (I'm sort of looking at you, sports games). Certainly, sports games actually have a good reason to release a new version every year. I just don't think it should be a full priced product. I think it should be DLC. Being the huge soccer fan that I am, I have purchased every new copy of FIFA since 09, and before that, every copy of Winning Eleven/Pro Evolution since, I don't know, probably 2001? I have of course loathed and cherished every new version at the same time, somehow. It's very exciting getting to play with the new rosters and seeing some of the mild improvements that they have made to the game. It's also very frustrating when you find out that a part of the new version is actually worse (i.e. the refs in FIFA 11). However, all of these changes together should have cost me no more than 20$, period. It's simply not enough new content to justify buying an entirely new version. Now, every 3 or 4 years or so, if they want to come out with a completely new version with a new engine and style, I'm totally okay with that. But I sort of feel the same way with Apple's tactic. It's just not worth the extra money to buy a newer version each time it comes out. Honestly, I think that Steve Jobs knows that a lot of people feel this way. I think that it's part of the reason he's doing it. He comes out with a version that is without some of the functions that could drive people to buy the newer revision, and then he releases the newer, upgraded version for some of the people that might not have been bothered to buy a 1st gen one. They're intrigued by the newer version, and it gets them interested in buying the product as a whole. For all of the bad things that people (myself included, somewhat) have to say about Steve Jobs, he is truly a marketing pro. Did you think I would say genius? No, no, that term is reserved for geniuses.
Regarding Apple upgrading product, I bought a used iMac OS 8.6 for $100 can't remember when but it was after OS X was release and I learned that Apple's Operating Systems before OS X were no longer supported, and shareware/freeware/pirated software online are VERY hard to find unlike MS-DOS/Windows 3.11.
As I say, what is the point of having a 3Ghz CPU, 2GB of RAM, etc. just to boot up an OS when a 486, less than 1MB of RAM booted up a computer faster.
I am an Apple fan. Their products make me happy. But I have to fall in the middle on the iPad issue.
If the question is, "Would you go out and buy one?" Then the answer is no. But I'd like to have one, even though there is no legitimate reason for me to own one. Or perhaps anyone own one at all.
What does annoy me, however, is my two-year-old cousin owns an iPad to watch her Disney princess movies. She's fucking two.
The biggest thing with the iPad 2, is it's almost like Apple waited until right when everyone who really wanted the iPad had one, then announced they would upgrade. I think that's a big failing of a lot of companies, not just Apple. Marketing schemes have to change.
Do I want one? Yeah. But I don't know a damned reason as to why I should own one.
I'm a mac user and have been for a couple years now, and whilst that isn't a long time, I really enjoy my mac and how easy it is to use and more importantly to me, how reliable it is without the need for additional firewalls, virus scanners, spyware filters etc etc.
I do realise that I paid more than I would for an equivalent PC, but I'm very happy with my purchase and there's probably not much chance of me going back to PCs unless I decide to get into PC gaming. I considered a mac initially because I had an iPod and really didn't like the way iTunes worked with Windows, then I had my laptop stolen, so decided to go down the mac route to test the water.
Anyway, getting back on topic, I honestly don't understand the iPad as been anything more than a fashionable piece of hardware simply due to its functionality in comparison to a laptop. As far as I can tell, if you have a laptop, then you have no need for an iPad, and would never take the iPad with you instead of the laptop, unless you wanted to show off, or your laptop was simply too heavy. I've tried to be as objective as possible with this but I can not honestly see any reason to buy an iPad, nor would I ever recommend one to any prospective netbook buyers. Perhaps I'm missing something here, but I just don't get it!
Just to round up, I'm not sure why people seem to think of the iPad as successful either. I mean with the iPod, yes, it's certainly the most popular mp3 device on the market, and same goes for the iPhone, which was also incredibly successful straight from launch. But the iPad? I've never even seen one in the flesh, maybe it's because I don't hang around with many people that have more money than sense, or like to buy things purely to show off / look flash!
Just realise I didn't answer the question, so I'll make one here that I think everyone will agree with for 95% of all situations: Laptop > iPad & iPad2
EDIT: Just remembered a use for a tablet PC that I do think is good - and that's simply for drawing / painting / image manipulation, simply because a mouse can never replicate those movements. Though as far as I'm aware, a proper image manipulation package like Photoshop isn't available for iPad.
Well, I was never really interested in ipad, because I always thought it is not really necessary and I am really a minimalist, pc, laptop and a handy. Enough for me.
And the money I would spend on the ipad can be better spend on feeding my family or updating my old pc :P.
Honestly? Nothing. While tablet PCs like the iPad are convinient and are great for media consumption, iPad 2 doesn't bring any innovation to the table. Given the choice, I'll take the cheaper iPad 1 or a cheaper alternative.
Now to briefly hit on my opinion of tablet PCs: I like them, but I'd rather have a laptop. My reasoning for this is because tablet PCs don't have the same strengths as standard boxes. I prefer physical keyboards (though the dock port on a tablet can be used for one) and the ablility to access more processor taxing programs such as Sony Vegas, allowing for more productivity on the go. I also prefer to have a larger hard drive than the current wave of models are providing.
Having said that, I have used friends' iPads, and in terms of the OS and concept, I am sold on it as a viable device. What I am not sold on, however, is to jump into the pool until they either become more affordable and get larger hard drives. Until then, I'm pleased with what I've got.
*EDIT: Ugh, I really need to get used to that one-click = post, this is the second time I've double-posted, and I feel like an idiot for it. xP
@TwilightLink21xx there is an 'Edit' button, look at the bottom-right corner of your post and there is the 'edit' beside the 'reply'.