Weekly Wringer 106: Nintendo Hardware Questions

Time to talk Nintendo today as the Commodore looks back on last week’s question about whether the big N should stay in the hardware business. And then it’s off to a question for next time about encyclopedic knowledge of videogame universes. It’s the Weekly Wringer!

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  • mrandycretin mrandycretin
    Posted June 2, 2014 at 3:37 PM | Permalink

    i guess(?) i’d go with a pokemon encyclopedia. but that already exists in the form of bulbapedia.com.

    i would never buy any encyclopedia because i already have internet service in my house and would always use that first.

    if the internet didn’t exist..then a set of bulbapedias because i would probably get the most use out of those.

    i guess i could also see using a finalfantasypedia, but i think it would be too cumbersome.

  • Swizlet
    Posted June 2, 2014 at 5:22 PM | Permalink

    Probably the Warcraft universe. It is so ridiculously complex that I have never been able to follow it at all, even in the RTS games you play 1 mission with 2-3 characters you see once and never again and it turns out they have novel’s worth of backstory to them. The Warcraft universe has just been so fleshed out over the years with all the books, games and the extremely successful MMORPG. Its just one of those games like a Final Fantasy for me, where I know getting enriched in the lore and story would make for a better experience, but the massive amount, detail and the fact that its all scattered around makes it difficult for me to do so.

  • Tim Tim
    Posted June 2, 2014 at 7:38 PM | Permalink

    (Sorry, if this text is illegible or has weird structure it’s because I’m sick and have a nasty fever…)

    Oooh this is a fun question. And I’m having a hard time deciding one just one.
    Zelda has it’s Hyrule Historia, so that’s one game series out of the battle. Final Fantasy is so divided into separate universes, that it’s just pointless…

    Out of the two I want the most, Silent Hill has gone in all kind of directions and feels shattered now. There were some continuity in the first four games for sure, references to other parts of the series and had a nice mysterious lore. But with movies and comic books and out sourced games, it all feels very shattered.

    This leads me to the number one: The Elder Scrolls.
    Every game takes place in the same world, same continent even! Races from different parts of the world interact in every game, books, stories and events from earlier games are referenced in the later ones, not only as an obscure reference, but actually integrated to the world. History books found in Skyrim tell the tale of the events in Oblivion, describing events you have experienced yourself if you played the game. It even references Morrowind. Some “Old books” that has been around for centuries exist in both Oblivion and Skyrim, with the same content.

    There’s just so much there, and it’s such a living world. There are gods, war with gods, religious groups, races that has gone extinct, civil wars, old kings and queens and traditions.

    In the collectors edition of Oblivion you actually got a book from within the game world. A Brief History of the Empire, 3rd Edition. (The 1st Edition came with Redguard, “but while the old version had been stridently pro-Imperial in its tone, the new version was much more even-handed and less propagandist.” (from uesp.net)).

    Then there are novels written about The Elder Scrolls universe which I haven’t read, but if they’re canonical or not… I don’t know. I think they might as well be counted as that, since it’s such a huge world.

    Yeah. So long ranty text short: The Elder Scrolls Encyclopedia.

  • lucktacular lucktacular
    Posted June 3, 2014 at 12:14 PM | Permalink

    Since we’re talking about an encyclopedia, the information in this book needs to not only be interesting, but useful. I’d have to want to use it as a resource when playing the game.

    Guild Wars.

    There is enough lore behind Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2 that someone could fill up pages and pages of good information in an encyclopedia. There would definitely need to be a section just for their beautiful concept art. Every quest could be listed with the lore explained and guides on how to complete them. Advanced character build guides (55 monk, Imbagon, Sabway, etc.) could also be included.

    I’d buy that for a dollar!

  • KuraraII KuraraII
    Posted June 3, 2014 at 2:14 PM | Permalink

    I agree with your stance on hardware. We are seeing the effect of diminishing returns at this point of time, in which our graphics technology has pretty much matured. Software is no longer strictly limited as much as it used to be, which frees it for much more creative development.

    What encyclopedia, though? That’s a really tough question. What gaming universe would I want the option to explore beyond what was presented in its games? I would have to think about which games have enthralled me with their stories, giving me a small glimpse into an imagined wellspring of creativity.

    I don’t think I can adequately answer that question. There are too many choices from me to pick from, too many games I am too invested in to only select one.

    I suppose of recent franchises, I’d be very interested in reading about the world of Fallout, its current state and what led to its inception. I want to know about the complex political, social and cultural milieus of their alternate world that created the opportunity for the bombs to drop. Was it indeed its complexity, or was it that humanity suffered from a myopic view of the world around them, demonstrably like many of our modern politicians, that led to its tragic and violent creation?

    What did the Communist states, ostensibly the villains on one side, have as their political/social/etc climate at the time? What is going on in the world beyond the warring giants of NATO vs Sino-Soviet PACT? Was there a movement of unaligned nations in this universe?

    And this leads into Fallout’s dystopian present. What’s going on outside of the USA? Are there nations thriving out there? Or did the entire world quake and shatter under the lingering specter of the nuclear holocaust?

  • punch_a_bunch_a_buttons punch_a_bunch_a_buttons
    Posted June 5, 2014 at 5:26 AM | Permalink

    I would love a Tetris encyclopedia!!

    Na I’m kidding. I’d go one for any one of the big 2d RPG’s of our youth. I say that because 3d give us full visual experience. While 2d it’s all imagination. I have to care for the characters and for that it would help if i could read more about them, their surroundings, the weapens they use. A background if you will. For example, Atma: It split into two, one part became a monster and the other turned into a weapon.

    Final Fantasy, Ys series, Tales series, Star Ocean, Valkyrie Profile, Suikoden, etc. I know I’m cheating but that kind of game…

    Would I buy? Maybe, it would be an awesome read on a 10 hour flight.

  • I Feel Asleep I Feel Asleep
    Posted June 5, 2014 at 4:05 PM | Permalink

    I would like a Metal Gear Encyclopedia. I like the story, but it is next to impossible to follow when and where things take place, who double crossed who, and the overall atmosphere of the world as the events take place. I would like to see how Metal Gear and the other technology evolved over the years. My only concern would be that knowing everything would ruin some of the shadowy nature of the games, but I still like the idea.

    • punch_a_bunch_a_buttons punch_a_bunch_a_buttons
      Posted June 6, 2014 at 5:04 AM | Permalink

      Metal Gear actually needs one. There are so many political aspect to the story that we are all lost in the main storyline. They should include that in every Metal Gear game just like how they kinda did in Metal Gear Solid(PSX).

  • AkiraVGA
    Posted June 6, 2014 at 6:00 PM | Permalink

    Team Ico’s growing series. Ico and Shadow of the Colossus are linked and The Last Guardian is suggested to be part of the same world. Part of the beauty of both existing games is the wonder and mystery. Having an encyclopedia explaining all there is to know in that world would destroy the wonder experience which is why I would only suggest this coming to be well after The Last Guardian’s release.

    Word comes that The Last Guardian ends the trilogy… then 2 years later, the full encyclopedia of this world is released.

    I would buy it, read it, and greatly enjoy learning the lore I craved…. Then I would wish it never existed because I love not knowing when the mystery is so beautiful.

  • Lupucillo Lupucillo
    Posted August 4, 2014 at 9:35 PM | Permalink

    As a Japanese-born Westerner (12 years living in Japan, 18 years living in Western countries), Nintendo meant a lot in my childhood.

    Nintendo is chiefly a toy manufacturer, so they specialise in making games and toys. So they should remain in the business.

    Plus, the hardware and software departments at the Nintendo building are very close, so software and hardware engineers are constantly in communication. That was how some brilliant devices like the Wii Remote controller and the DK Bongo drums were invented.

  • Lupucillo Lupucillo
    Posted August 4, 2014 at 9:48 PM | Permalink

    A game word encyclopaedia I would like and buy would be: Panzer Dragoon.

    It’s a very unique world with many similarities to our reality, but many differences in the way physics and chemistry operate.

    Technically, there is an encyclopaedia for Panzer Dragoon, but it’s incomplete and largely left to speculation.

    What we know is that there was a worldwide nuclear war (a la Mad Max, Fist of the North Star, BattleTanx, Fallout, etc), and the bio-weapons used in this war evolved into the new inhabitants of the world and created their own ecosystems. Humans survived in diminished numbers and had to adapt to this new hostile world. And from the remains of the ancient world, they find technologies and weapons with which they once again obey the call of human nature, which is to fight for dominance.

    Within the human civilisations, legends are born about dragons and ancient battles with artificial beings created by ancient humans for the Great War.

    That would be an encyclopaedia I would read from cover-to-cover.

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